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Seduction PUA routines: How to transition

Fri, 06/25/2010

Transitioning into a routine

One of the things that frequently prevents students from using tried and tested effective material is

"I don't know how to transition into it."

This is an easy fix.

The incorrect assumption here is that you need some kind of clever, smooth way to get into a routine, or else it seems to be "out of nowhere" and we don't want it to be "out of nowhere."

This is wrong.

Here's why-

-There's nothing wrong with any piece of material (pro script, self script, or natural) being "out of nowhere." The women will just adapt to your frame and follow along.

- Trying to be clever and smooth with transitions generally results in 3-4 seconds of thinking too hard, which makes you look incongruent, reduces yoru ability to take the lead, prevents you from listening to the other person (important skill), and reduces your ability to calibrate.

So how does one transition into a piece of material? Well it's simple. Just PLOW RIGHT INTO IT. Once you get the idea in your head that it's time to do a piece of material, just start. That's it.

Let's take the 8 girlfriends routine for example. There are many ways to just jump in. "How many boyfriends do you have?" or "did I ever tell you I have 8 girlfriends?" or "one of my girlfriends looks just like you." And you're off to the races.

Another one people have told me they have trouble getting into is the whatever song. It's as simple as "check out this song" or "let me teach you this song." It doesn't always have to be triggered by the girls saying whatever.

You can just stack and jump from one thing to the next, to the next, and the girls will just follow.

Once in a while they might say "that's so random" or "that's out of nowhere." This is not a bad thing. Just say "yeah I know" and keep plowing through.

"That's out of nowhere" is not a criticism, so don't take it like one. If you do, you're showing insecurity. That's instant death in this game.

This comes down to showing leadership. Think of a situation where there is a clear cut leader. Maybe a drill sargent or college professor. They talk about what they want to talk about and tell you what the fuck to do. They don't sit there wondering "how can I transition into this without it being too random?" Once you start thinking that you're losing momentum.

This technique for transitioning has been tested and proven to be successful for several years now. Even beginners can do it.

People are asking me about DIRECT GAME

Wed, 06/16/2010

On the 30/30 forum, a month 9 student who goes by Legato asked me about direct game. Have a read through our discussion about it.

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Legato says:
Can you elaborate more deeply on why direct game doesn't work?

You mentioned it briefly in the audio CD's and in writings I believe but they were surface level answers such as... Gives away too much validation or I suppose if she expects what is going to happen you could compare it to watching a movie where you know what is going to happen.

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Brad P says:
I know tons of students are in love with the idea of direct game. The come to workshop and try it. I am open minded and I observe it. It flops every time.

When I say "flops" I mean sometimes it gets a blowout and the girl looks like "ow wow, this is making me uncomfortable to get an unwarranted compliment out of nowhere from a needy guy" and sometimes the girl gets a big smile, her ego goes to cloud nine, then she does the "politely give this guy a chance" thing for a couple of minutes, then she decides to leave because it's boring and there's no challenge.

I always give the student like 5 tries cause i dont want to piss on anyone's parade. After they flop 5 times I give them one of the openers from my Instant Attraction book (check it out here- http://bradp.com/instant-attraction) and it works way better. The girls start talking to them, show attraction, and they get better results.

I'm not against the idea of direct game, or the theory, or anything else. I'm not trying to bash anyone or start any politcal arguments. I'm open to anything that works. I'm just telling you what I observed and why I don't recommend it. It's been proven to me over and over that it does'nt work nearly as well as Instant Attraction openers. I just want people to use the stuff that has been proven to get guys laid.

I have seen direct work for super good looking guys who are students, and I have seen it work for coaches, like Glenn and Scotty Flamingo. I figure Glenn and Scotty could probably make anything work. Glenn could probably walk up and do a loud fart and the girls would be all over him, because every part of his game is awesome. So i guess direct game works fine when you are super awesome and the girls is already attracted....because anything could work then.

Most students are not super good looking or already having tight game. So i dont think direct is that useful for most people.

Lastly, I'm a bit suspicious of the way direct game is being sold to people. Men are in love with the idea of going direct, even though it has proven to be ineffective. I think this is laziness and small comfort zone. They want to continue to cling to old fashion BS dating advice like "just tell her you like her and ask her out. Be confident," the kind of stuff your grandma tells you. I am completely against that kind of stuff.

The Instant Attraction openers do more than open, they teach you a mindset that will get you laid. Direct openers do not teach this, they let you stay your old chumpy self a lot longer.

There's lot's of dating material out there that caters to people's small comfort zones by giving them nice-guy stuff or direct. The guys who learn this stuff tend to become approach-artists. That's a guy who can open pretty well but never gets laid. They never learn the mindset of a guy who is dominant. They stay a pussy forever, because the material allows them to stay a pussy.

There's this one workshop company, for example,that teaches what basically amounts to nice-guy behavior. They've sent tons of their coaches to my workshops, and these guys can't get laid or get attraction. If their coaches can't get attraction, what's going to happen to their students? However, their material still sells a lot, and is very popular with guys who want to learn seduction but don't want to make a change and become dominant. Not trying to trash talk, i do like those guys as people, they are very nice guys. But just wanted to give you an example of how sometimes people sell shit that doesn't work to guys with small comfort zones, and it gets the students nowhere. They even have this motto "make girls smile" which doesn't really get anyone laid. That's why around here, our motto is "blow me or blow me out."

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Nacerima said-
For guys who do like to be more direct (or guys who feel they may come of with high enough value from the gate), the "high value" openers in the IA book are much better than going up to girls and calling them beautiful or whatever.
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Lagato said-
Thanks for the response.

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Rajin said-
Is it OK if I re-post this on the Perth Lair?

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Brad P said-

No prob. Im glad to share what I know and what I've observed. The % of success is just really really low with stuff like "you're so pretty, i just had to come say hi or I would never forgive myself." I've seen it many times, the rate of girls getting attracted to a student who is using something like that seems to be below 10%. I wish things were different and I could tell you it worked.

Openers from the Instant Attraction book have a way way higher rate of getting attraction. I love them because they can even work for newbies and guys who are completely socially retarded. In terms of what I prefer to teach, I really prefer stuff that works for newbs and guys who don't have any clue what they're doing. That's where we all start from, and openers from the Instant Attraction book give the students some attraction, a nice confidence boost, and teach a ballsy mindset.

Rajin, (and anyone else who wants to repost this) YES sure you can repost it.

PS ask Ray PUAHAHA about this. He did direct game for a few thousand sets, over the course of a year and a half. He did not get laid once using it. NOT FUCKING ONCE! That's upsetting. I think in his case, it may have moved his game backwards, because he got laid 1 time using another method before switching to direct game. Then I patched his game up last year in Pickup Mansion,, and now he gets laid all the time.

Direct game- works for coaches, gurus, good looking guys, naturals, and game wizards...and for some reason it works a bit better in europe.

Instant Attraction openers- work for newbs, average guys, not-so-good-looking guys, disaster cases, normal/cool guys, and the guys listed above also.

http://bradp.com/instant-attraction- this is where I give away some of those openers for free.

Workshop Review- New York City, June 2010

Tue, 06/15/2010

Here's a review from one of the guys who was at the recent workshop in New York City. He is also a 30/30 Member, and this review was posted on the 30/30 Forum.

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For me this was a transformative weekend when my comfort zone was stretched way beyond my elastic limit! I did stuff that I had never done before to the point where my belief system literally shifted to possibilities that I never imagined before!

With a very healthy student to coaches ratio, we all got the personalized attention, and I had such positive experiences that I thought I'd share with you.

The feedback that I got was so down to the letter that I now have enough to work with in improving my game. The four coaches that I worked directly with were Brad, Jake, Hyper and Glenn.

In sets that I was in at West 4th Washington part, Jake noticed some behavior of mine and body language telegraphing neediness, and I made a mental note of it. In a set at Union Square, Brad noticed my tendency to be rather too reactive to her in an interaction, almost putting her on a pedestal, and I made a mental note of this as well.

During the night game at a club downtown, Glenn and Hyper noticed my lack of presence, and literally kicked my ass into sets that I would normally go into. A classic set was this blond sitting not too far from us, and before I was ready, Glenn goes: "K.S., you are the shit! None of this nonsense of neediness! You are the man! Go to that girl and fuck her!" Before I could think, I calmly walked over to her, motioned her to make way on her chair, sat on the same chair, put my arms around her, pulled her hair before I even said a word!

My euphoric moment came on the dance floor. I was with Hyper, and while a song I liked was playing, I started dancing, and Hyper was like "Hey K.S., you’ve got some moves, man! See those 5 girls dancing over there, go over into the middle of that circle and dance with all of them, “elimidating” them in turns!” I had read about Brad doing this on dance floors, and had been to clubs several times, but just did not have the bones to try it.

Before I could think, I just calmly walked over, squished two girls aside and moved in to the middle of the pack and started doing my thing. I held one girl’s hand and had her do the spin for me, and “elimidated” her 30 seconds. Turned to the other girl by the pole and started grinding her against the pole, and she responded by grinding back. In a minute or so into this, I “elimidated” her and started dancing with the 3rd girl. Before I was aware, all five girls were literally grinding at me, and noticed flash lights all around me.

At this moment, a shift happened in my reality and I mentally told myself that “Yeah! I am the shit! I am entitled to all these women”.

While I am not there yet, this has been a transformative weekend, and I have the tools to push my game further. I consider myself a recovering “nice guy”, and over the next few months or so, my task is to work on those key points, and develop my self esteem and sense of entitlement to the women that I have worked so had to develop my skills for. I am the prize, and I am entitled to as many hot chicks that wish to go in for!

Seeing the coaches in action took this to another level altogether. Glenn did a street set at Union Square with a phone close, with Hyper narrating to us each step along the way. Very educational. Jake did a set of about six girls at Washington Square with a number close and narrated this to us after wards. I saw Hyper chilling with a cool chick during the night game in one of the clubs. It was obvious that this chick was into him. Brad's sets were like works of art, with each set painted in it's own unique combination of colors and textures. These are visual images that I can play back over and over again as many times that I wish! I didn't interact with Scotty much 'cause he was always with the other groups, but on the last day, I got to interact with him briefly, and found him to be a really cool guy.

Drew had all these stories of himself that had me up in stitches! All in all, an awesome weekend!

I would encourage any one in the 30/30 club who hasn’t done so to consider a WS. It will vastly improve their game overnight!

Cheers,
K.S.

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Seduction PUA routines: How to transition

People are asking me about DIRECT GAME

Workshop Review- New York City, June 2010

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